I'm Him w. special guest Eric Bellinger feat. Rodney Jerkins

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The We Sound Crazy family opens the door in Nashville this week for one of modern R&B's most consistent singer-songwriters, the Grammy-nominated Compton-bred pen game legend Eric Bellinger. Joining hosts Philionaire, Claude Kelly and Chuck Harmony of Louis York, and Tamone Bacon, Eric arrives at a defining crossroads: his upcoming self-titled album with lead single "Cry In Front Of You" marks his first move under a new partnership between his Evolve Music imprint and the iconic Tamla Motown, ending a fully independent run of more than forty released projects. And before the episode is over, a legend pulls up unannounced to make it official.

The songwriter stories arrive fast and land clean. Eric relives the moment he heard Verse Simmons cooking up the beat next door at a writing camp and knew instantly that "You know me and my baby" was going to become Usher and Chris Brown's "New Flame," a record that is now the lead song on Usher's upcoming R&B tour. He shouts out silent-sniper Ne-Yo writing full verses on his phone in five minutes, unpacks the Usher gem that a melody has to be able to fill a stadium, and shares the Jermaine Dupri note that finally pushed him out of his rap-cadence comfort zone. He also calls his shot on the R&B resurgence, naming Coco Jones, Leon Thomas, Victoria Monet, and Muni Long as proof that the technical, intricate stuff is winning again.

Then Eric goes where he has never gone on record. Guided by fan-submitted questions from the Crazy Crew, he opens up about the death of his mother, the grief that pushed him to co-write the album cold-sober from scratch with Troy Taylor, Harmony Samuels, Oak, Chris Riddick, Tony, and KP, and why "I Need Help" felt like the only honest way to open the record. He explains how his wife Lamaya, his kids, and the "Bell Ringers" who kept showing up with blankets at meet-and-greets carried him through, and offers real advice to a viewer grieving her own father about why you should never force creativity through loss. He also reflects on marriage in the industry, the "Never Be Lonely" duet with Amber Riley, sneaking onto Usher's Tiny Desk, and why family in the frame at Def Comedy Jam's 25th anniversary meant everything.

The episode's biggest surprise walks through the door mid-conversation: legendary producer, songwriter, and Darkchild architect Rodney Jerkins pulls up to make the Evolve Music, Tamla Motown, Eric Bellinger partnership official on camera. Rodney, who has known Eric since he was thirteen, breaks down why this is a Quincy-and-Michael-style one-two punch, why he told Eric "you're gonna need a machine," and why the game right now is missing taste, patience, and the willingness to spend three years on an album. Eric closes the room by thanking Rodney directly, on mic, for his trust and brotherhood. Eric also sits in for our signature segment, Take It to the Bridge, and helps the crew split this week's Esther Rolle Award of Black Excellence (The ERBE) between the legendary Greg Phillinganes (this week's ERBE winner) and Stevie Wonder (crowned with the GOAT honors). Now without further ado, hit that play button and jump into this episode!

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Special thanks to our We Sound Crazy team!

Director: Aaron Walton

Camera Op: Bryan Williams, Mike Johnson

Editing/Producer: Hyyer Creative

Show Producer/Remixer: Michael "Roux" Johnson

Assistant: Brittany Guydon

Thank you to all of our listeners, as well as our partners at Visit Music City.

Special thanks to Eric Bellinger and Rodney Jerkins!

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